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Espresso and Coda ( similarities & differences )

  • Hello Folks,

    :?:
    What are the main similarities & differences between Espresso and Coda? AND
    What are the Pros and Cons of each app?

    I am considering purchasing one of these, but I am not that familiar with them.

    Cheers
  • I think most people I know would say go with Coda - although I have no real logic to tell you why :D (I know I would buy coda... but im on a PC lol)

    Im sure that wasnt very helpful at all LOL
  • Another reminder to me that I'm supposed to give the Coda demo a trial...
  • Take a look at TextMate too - it's the daddy of text editors on the mac. You can trial TextMate and Coda (Espresso is still in development), so have a good play with each before you buy.
  • a few friends have tried espresso and swear by it now, definitely try all three text editor mentioned above, it really depends on your work flow
  • I am currently PC based, though I'm experimenting with running Leopard in VMware in order to trial Coda and Textmate. Having tried them I think I would switch to Mac in a second, but at the moment I just can't afford it.

    For my web dev I currently use Notepad++ with some addons (Explorer and FTP mostly).

    Other PC people - what text editors do you use / recommend?
  • The closest thing to TextMate on a PC is e-texteditor - it's well worth a trial.
  • I like dave, use notepad++ I used to use dreamweaver, but it wasn't lightweight enough.
  • "box" said:
    Take a look at TextMate too - it's the daddy of text editors on the mac. You can trial TextMate and Coda (Espresso is still in development), so have a good play with each before you buy.

    I agree. I am just trying to get feedback from people that have tested them already. Good feedback is very useful.
    Anyone?
  • Espresso 1.0 is available!
    http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
    I am going to check it out.

    Cheers!
  • I’m trying out the Espresso demo - it's really good, with lots of nice little touches.

    The tag auto-complete is exceptionally well done. Examples:

    1. Typing "<p[return key]" will generate "<p></p>", smartly placing the cursor in between the tags rather than after them, so you can type in content immediately.

    2. You can type out a full tag manually, and then the instant you start to close it, it'll finish it for you. So if I type "<blockquote>whatever</", the instant I type the slash, it finishes it off with "</blockquote>". The thing is, you'd be closing the nearest tag manually anyway (otherwise the document wouldn't be valid), so it makes perfect sense. Brilliant.

    Some other thoughtful features:

    - "Quick Publish" will auto-upload your file to the server every time you save it. You can toggle it on/off with one click
    - Wrapping a link around selected text will automatically fill in the HREF attribute with the contents of the clipboard
    - The Find feature is identical to Safari's, with the popping yellow bubbles

    Etc., etc. They really seem to have thought of everything.

    I haven't used Coda so I don't know how it compares in these regards. But Espresso definitely seems great so far.
  • Just thought I should point out... Espresso is part of the MacHeist bundle (though it is the last app to be unlocked) and in previous years all apps were (as far as I know) unlocked. Looks like a good deal. I'm a big Coda fan, and switching to Espresso seems a bit unloyal of me, but I need to download the app and try it out. I did try it out when it was in Beta, and definitely found it lacking, but perhaps it has been improved in the 1.0. Ultimately though, I think the competition is good, and Coda can only grow stronger as a result.

    http://www.macheist.com/bundle
  • Yep, I'm waiting for it to get unlocked in the MacHeist bundle. The whole bundle is $25 less than Espresso alone at the regular price! And you get a full version that can be upgraded and everything.
  • I tried out the Espresso trial and have decided to stick with Coda. The biggest thing I couldn't get over is with Espresso, you can't just set up a ftp login to connect to a server. You have to create a local folder for your project. My workflow consists of working off a local linux box with apache, and then using git to push my changes to the live server. I don't work off my local machine, so I need to be able to just set it up so I can connect to a server and work from there.

    I dunno if I'm not doing something correctly, but that's the biggest issue I had with Espresso. As far as editing text, it seemed very similar to Coda.
  • Check it out! I just got Espresso for only $39 plus other software.
    http://www.macheist.com/

    What an awesome deal!!!
  • As of today, I'll be using Espresso. I updated Coda today (after not updating in awhile) and got a nice message saying "Don't pirate Coda... (et al)". I contacted Panic and they won't honour my receipt of purchase. No problem with Transmit, though. For such a great company, they sure know how to ruin a day.

    Textmate and Espresso will be on my dock for a while.
  • "Matt" said:
    As of today, I'll be using Espresso. I updated Coda today (after not updating in awhile) and got a nice message saying "Don't pirate Coda... (et al)". I contacted Panic and they won't honour my receipt of purchase. No problem with Transmit, though. For such a great company, they sure know how to ruin a day.

    Textmate and Espresso will be on my dock for a while.


    well that sucks...
  • "Robskiwarrior" said:
    well that sucks...


    I got it sorted out. They took the time to go back and look at their order history and found they had a glitch in their system.
  • does anybody know if there is any auto-formatting in espresso?
    that is the one thing that bugs me in coda. I mean formatting whole (html) pages, like you can do in dw, preferrably with tag libraries.
  • "Matt" said:


    I got it sorted out. They took the time to go back and look at their order history and found they had a glitch in their system.


    ahh well thats good! :D