I hope more of you guys know more about computer specs than I do....
Looking for a new computer, guess what I will be doing mainly???
Ok I will explain what I will do on the comp and why I need a new one.
Why? Mine is just shutting down on its own... it is really really slow*, even when cleaned up. There is no viruses, adwares, and secunia says it is up to date 100% (last scan 1 week ago). I do make sure I am secure at all times and I do my PC health every 2 weeks - 1 month (including from safe mode). I want to have more peace of mind for working with clients that my computer is up to the task. * boot up takes about 10 mins to get FF to open up at start, 5 mins for TB... (selected start up from msconfig)
What I will do. I will be making websites maybe coding a bit of java (if I get back into it) playing with graphics programs (Gimp/Photoshop etc) for sites making videos for my club (Kung fu - we are putting our syllabus on DVD) general internet usage, Excel & word use, email... etc
What I would like in a computer AMD Quad core 3gb Ram (at least) but want to expand to as much as possible Fast Hard Drive, min 80GB (currently I have 2 x 80GB hard drives, one was to play with linux - I can't get my head round linux) Windows Vista - (I know its bad, but c'mon they are pushing this through - linux needs to be as easy as windows for me to move) Play DVD Make DVD/CD
I think that PC is okay, but I have to ask which video editing program are you planning to use..? Are we talking windows movie maker or Final Cut Pro HD 2? The heavier your video editing program, the better graphics card you're going to need..
Oh and what I usually do is use some my 'old' monitor and keyboard and mouse and such, so you can save money on that and spend a little more on the computer parts that actually matter: processor, RAM, graphics card...
For windows movie maker this PC/graphics card should be fine... Maybe you can even run Adobe Premiere on that pc (which is a great video-editing program in my opinion)! And I'd definitely go for that plan on Dabs.. Windows 7 promises to be waaaay better than Vista (I've also tested it myself), and getting the upgrade for free is probably going to save you about 80 quid.
Build your own. Buying a prebuilt is just like throwing your hard-earned money out the window. Though, if you didn't work for it (or hardly) spend away.
Parts you'll need: Processor (Just use AMD. Intel's are very expensive and don't offer much outside of the Pi calculating field. And don't give me benchmarks, since Intel is known for "influencing" them. AMD's can do the EXACT same thing and cost much, much less.) Oh, and buy retail processors (not OEM) so you don't have to buy a fan along with it. RAM (DDR2 is still acceptable, just go for at least 3GB if you plan to use many Adobe applications) Motherboard (Go Full ATX if you can afford it, but a Micro ATX ASRock would suit you fine too) Hard Drive (Go for at least 300GB, SATA II) Case (Regular ATX case) Power Supply (PSU - At least 400W) Graphics Card (For design or modeling work, I HIGHLY recommend the FireGL V7600. It is the best I've used in a while for the price. For trying to reach your goal, try just going for the Nvidia 9000 series.)
Well, that's all the parts you need out of the box methinks.
EDIT Don't buy Acer computers. Acer makes great monitors, but every netbook/laptop/computer I've serviced or bought has either been damaged superficially or has had a component fail rather quickly (but suspiciously over the 60 day warranty). Also, their support is damned near impossible to get anything done with. Now, maybe nothing is wrong with what you buy, good, but just be warned and never say you hadn't known something could have gone wrong.
thanks matt, but that graphics car was $600, I only want to spend £500 all in. Remember I am in Scotland - which is part of britain, UK, I wont buy from abroad (heard horror stories)
I have never built a computer and this is why I am asking about specs, cause I would not know what to get.
I know I want: AMD Phenom x4 (Quad core) 3Gb Ram (min) HDD (7200 rpm min)
but I don't know enough about cables, DVD writers, motherboards, power supply, cases and all other things I would need.
a lot of people say it is cheaper and better to build your own, but I can't see that - if someone was to say this is what is needed, and let me know spec and cheapest place to buy, then I am up for thte recommendation.
a lot of people say it is cheaper and better to build your own, but I can't see that - if someone was to say this is what is needed, and let me know spec and cheapest place to buy, then I am up for thte recommendation.
I was actually going to suggest this when you first posted, although I would have gone with Ubuntu rather than Windows (more money to spend on hardware ;) ) I think it's a better OS anyway.
I helped my brother-in-law build his own desktop about three years ago, it was a lot of fun and immensely satisfying when we booted it up for the first time and gave a metaphorical digital finger to all those money grabbing corporations. :D
There is lots and lots of info online, here's a small selection: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/how-to-tech/build-a-computer.htm http://www.buildacomputerguide.com/ http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Computer http://www.mysuperpc.com/
As for parts in the UK, Google is always your friend: http://www.google.it/search?q=computer+parts+uk&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
yeah I have always thought about it but never got around to do it, and only want to spend £500, plus I would like a new monitor.
I am sticking with windows, as I have tried various linux flavours: suse, kubuntu, ubuntu, madrake (mandriva now) but I just cant seem to get my head round a lot of things. and I just get very frustrated by the linux elitists that always answer a help question with google it.... that used to really annoy me, so when help was not there, there was always windows to work as I wanted it to, ok, with more AV & Firewall protection but it was there.
I would love to find a place where I can configure a computer with parts I need, to see how much it is going to cost
For a 500 pound budget, you should be doing better than an Acer desktop and a monitor brand I've never even heard of.
A lot of Dell's monitors are on sale right now. Buy one.
Hmmm I just had a look at UK prices. You guys get the short end of the stick for sure. Dell's monitors seem to be priced well, but the desktop are way out of whack when comparing to US and Canadian pricing. Tough luck.
For a 500 pound budget, you should be doing better than an Acer desktop and a monitor brand I've never even heard of.
A lot of Dell's monitors are on sale right now. Buy one.
Hmmm I just had a look at UK prices. You guys get the short end of the stick for sure. Dell's monitors seem to be priced well, but the desktop are way out of whack when comparing to US and Canadian pricing. Tough luck.
graphics card can com later, but I would like USB at back & an ethernet connection to either take my ethernet cable or get a wireless to connect to my wireless router.
Why AM3? Well, if you upgrade in the near future, AM3 processors will work on AM2 AND AM3 motherboards. NOTE: AM2 PROCESSORS will NOT work on AM3 Motherboards. Besides the hardware incompatibility, it cannot physically insert into the socket. This is good future proofing. Also, stray from the Phenom I series as they contain a bug in the L3 cache that can render systems unstable.
As you build, make sure you touch a ground, whether it be an anti-static wrist-strap or a piece of metal connected to a ground. If you are very paranoid about static, take some liquid fabric softener and put about two drops into a small spritz bottle full of water. Shake it up and spray it on your floor. This is one way to rid your area of excess static.
Why AM3? Well, if you upgrade in the near future, AM3 processors will work on AM2 AND AM3 motherboards. NOTE: AM2 PROCESSORS will NOT work on AM3 Motherboards. Besides the hardware incompatibility, it cannot physically insert into the socket. This is good future proofing. Also, stray from the Phenom I series as they contain a bug in the L3 cache that can render systems unstable.
As you build, make sure you touch a ground, whether it be an anti-static wrist-strap or a piece of metal connected to a ground. If you are very paranoid about static, take some liquid fabric softener and put about two drops into a small spritz bottle full of water. Shake it up and spray it on your floor. This is one way to rid your area of excess static.
what about motherboard and the rest if I change the processor? would they all have to change?
what about motherboard and the rest if I change the processor? would they all have to change?
If you change the processor to the one I suggested above, everything else would work perfectly. All AM3 processors have a DDR2 and DDR3 Integrated Memory Controller. This is how AM3 processors can work in AM2 motherboards with no modification. Though, if you upgrade to an AM3 motherboard in the future, the only other part you would need to change is your RAM to DDR3.
Well, looks good from this end. And I will admit, LG monitors are very good quality and assembly, but don't let anybody tell you Acer monitors are cheap pieces of crap. I use this monitor every day for a bit of print design and a lot of modeling. The color tuning is spot on and the image quality is superb.
You should do a running thread on the build, definately. I would love to see how you get on and maybe give it another shot. The price bracket is right and with what Matt said about future proofing as well...it could be very, very useful to a lot of people.
As a P.S. - do ebuyer.com ship to the Republic? I had a look at their shipping details, but they don't explicitly say. Just if anyone had any idea...
As a P.S. - do ebuyer.com ship to the Republic? I had a look at their shipping details, but they don't explicitly say. Just if anyone had any idea...
If you scroll about two thirds down the page to "Delivery Options outside Mainland UK" you will see that they do indeed http://www.ebuyer.com/special/1293
I will do.... this is going to be my first build, I will be in contact with someone who hopefully (fingers crossed) will help me over the phone. I may even take pics and make a site up for it.
I am in 2 minds to get the processor Matt was speaking about the AM3 but on the AM2 board, lots of sites say it is ok, some say you have to flash the bios (???) and some say you can't......
My money has cleared, so it is just about buying the stuff now.
one thing I don't know about is..... will I need some sort of cement/glue stuff for the processor? or is it part of the processor I am buying.
it is daunting doing this as it is a lot of money, I want to do it right.
I knew I had this bookmarked somewhere. Reasonably detailed instructions and, better still, each section has up to date and relevant links to an active forum. http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/pc-building/
Also some pretty good vids on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Of49_WuOGY
EDIT: just watched the youtube video, & the only thing worrying me is the thermal paste stuff & cooling fan.....
I don't have these, any recommendations?
By buying a retail processor, your heatsink will have a preapplied compound-wax-pad applied to the bottom of it. All you have to do is secure it onto the processor and the compound will melt and spread out on the surface of the processor on first run.
THAT's why I said by a retail processor. Takes out the confusion ;)
EDIT By buying a retail processor, it will also come with a stock heatsink + fan with the compound pad on it, in case I wasn't clear enough.
EDIT: just watched the youtube video, & the only thing worrying me is the thermal paste stuff & cooling fan.....
I don't have these, any recommendations?
By buying a retail processor, your heatsink will have a preapplied compound-wax-pad applied to the bottom of it. All you have to do is secure it onto the processor and the compound will melt and spread out on the surface of the processor on first run.
THAT's why I said by a retail processor. Takes out the confusion ;)
EDIT By buying a retail processor, it will also come with a stock heatsink + fan with the compound pad on it, in case I wasn't clear enough.[/quote]
sweet.
I just edited my last post to say I left you a PM, mainly about the AM3 processor.
I want to buy it either tonight or tomorrow, but, the processor I was looking at has went up a few pounds today, but the AM3 one you linked to has not.
I just edited my last post to say I left you a PM, mainly about the AM3 processor.
I want to buy it either tonight or tomorrow, but, the processor I was looking at has went up a few pounds today, but the AM3 one you linked to has not.
I will sedn the address as I am about to start building.
wish me luck everyone
EDIT I bought the stuff. one or 2 small changes, due to recommendations.
1 x AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2 GHz Socket AM3 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor (gigabyte say it can be used, Matt verified - cheers dude) 1 x Gigabyte GA-M720-US3 AMD Nvidia 720D Socket AM2+ 7.1 channel audio ATX Motherboard 1 x OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Gold Memory 1 x Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM 1 x Casecom 500W 12cm Fan - 20+4pin, ATX12v, 4x Molex, 1x SATA - Retail Box 1 x LiteOn 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer IDE Black Bare Drive - OEM 1 x Shiny Black Mid Tower Case with Mesh Front Panel and Front 12cm LED Fan With Top Mounted 4x USB2.0 - No PSU 1 x Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/SP1 - W/ Windows 7 Upgrade Offer Form - licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English 1 x LG W2242S 22" TFT Monitor 1680x1050 8000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA Black 3 Years Warranty
Best of luck! Boldly Go Where No Ikthius Has Gone Before! Weapons to MAXIMUM!!
EDIT - You have a link to comment on the site, but no comment form. Might be handy if things go pear shaped! (not for me, obviously, but for Matt et al who actually know what they're on about - they could solve any probs all in the one spot...)
EDIT - for anyone in the Eurozone, I've just checked and Ikthius's build specs would exchange for €657.06 at the current rate.
that wordpress is just a test site for any potential clients, so I never really use it.
but I will fix the comments part later after work, just before I build, it is all out for delivery right now.... I am so excited, yet some how shitting a brick at the same time. actually I need a poo
I should have probably made it clear that the board didn't have on-board. I thought you were attempting to pull out your old card and place it into your new board. You can put the blame on me for this one :oops:
I should have probably made it clear that the board didn't have on-board. I thought you were attempting to pull out your old card and place it into your new board. You can put the blame on me for this one :oops:[/quote]
not blaming you......
Just before I bought all the stuff, I phoneed ebuyer, and the guy said to me to change the motherboard to this one, cause it will work better for the stuff I was buying. HE should have told me that, cause it was not mentioned.
I tried to salvage one, but mine was integrated to my last motherboard, I remember my mate gave me one, but it was too big for the case so I could not use it.
Have you thought about contacting eBuyer and complaining about it? Things aren't the same in the UK as they are here, but here you can usually get free swag from griping about a salesperson from not giving you the correct information. It may work, if not, good luck salvaging I guess :?
you have to be bloody good at it over here, but generally, they would just say srry over here.
mind you I kind of want to get it up and running now....
Anyway the computer is a business expense, as I need it for business, the comp parts I bought were from the business account, now I can afford the graphics card on my own wallet.
in two months time I will get 4 more gigs of ram, and maybe another HDD to complete the comp...
the public mentality is getting like america's, where some will go to court over anything, but it is not as rife as over there.
although looking for more places selling that card you linked to, just in case my local currys does not have it in, more than likely, PC World (who are the same company as currys) are doing it £20 more expensive..... I bloody hate rip off britain
I hope more of you guys know more about computer specs than I do....
Looking for a new computer, guess what I will be doing mainly???
Ok I will explain what I will do on the comp and why I need a new one.
Why?
Mine is just shutting down on its own... it is really really slow*, even when cleaned up.
There is no viruses, adwares, and secunia says it is up to date 100% (last scan 1 week ago).
I do make sure I am secure at all times and I do my PC health every 2 weeks - 1 month (including from safe mode).
I want to have more peace of mind for working with clients that my computer is up to the task.
* boot up takes about 10 mins to get FF to open up at start, 5 mins for TB... (selected start up from msconfig)
What I will do.
I will be making websites
maybe coding a bit of java (if I get back into it)
playing with graphics programs (Gimp/Photoshop etc) for sites
making videos for my club (Kung fu - we are putting our syllabus on DVD)
general internet usage, Excel & word use, email... etc
What I would like in a computer
AMD Quad core
3gb Ram (at least) but want to expand to as much as possible
Fast Hard Drive, min 80GB (currently I have 2 x 80GB hard drives, one was to play with linux - I can't get my head round linux)
Windows Vista - (I know its bad, but c'mon they are pushing this through - linux needs to be as easy as windows for me to move)
Play DVD Make DVD/CD
Ok what I have found is this
http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.a ... _id=34035#
better images: http://www.aceroutlet.com/PRD_MoreImages.aspx?pid=4124
what are your thoughts guys, I really want to get a good buy for what I want and what I need I also want to spend around the £500 mark.
Oh and what I usually do is use some my 'old' monitor and keyboard and mouse and such, so you can save money on that and spend a little more on the computer parts that actually matter: processor, RAM, graphics card...
but mainly movie maker just now. I just want the possibility to expand, so in a start up, would that suit my needs?
edit: I found it on Dabs and they are doing a buy now pay Jan 2010 & get a free upgrade to Windows 7 (disk)
And I'd definitely go for that plan on Dabs.. Windows 7 promises to be waaaay better than Vista (I've also tested it myself), and getting the upgrade for free is probably going to save you about 80 quid.
cheers Hugo
http://www.newegg.com/
Parts you'll need:
Processor (Just use AMD. Intel's are very expensive and don't offer much outside of the Pi calculating field. And don't give me benchmarks, since Intel is known for "influencing" them. AMD's can do the EXACT same thing and cost much, much less.)
Oh, and buy retail processors (not OEM) so you don't have to buy a fan along with it.
RAM (DDR2 is still acceptable, just go for at least 3GB if you plan to use many Adobe applications)
Motherboard (Go Full ATX if you can afford it, but a Micro ATX ASRock would suit you fine too)
Hard Drive (Go for at least 300GB, SATA II)
Case (Regular ATX case)
Power Supply (PSU - At least 400W)
Graphics Card (For design or modeling work, I HIGHLY recommend the FireGL V7600. It is the best I've used in a while for the price. For trying to reach your goal, try just going for the Nvidia 9000 series.)
Well, that's all the parts you need out of the box methinks.
EDIT
Don't buy Acer computers. Acer makes great monitors, but every netbook/laptop/computer I've serviced or bought has either been damaged superficially or has had a component fail rather quickly (but suspiciously over the 60 day warranty). Also, their support is damned near impossible to get anything done with. Now, maybe nothing is wrong with what you buy, good, but just be warned and never say you hadn't known something could have gone wrong.
thanks matt, but that graphics car was $600, I only want to spend £500 all in. Remember I am in Scotland - which is part of britain, UK, I wont buy from abroad (heard horror stories)
I have never built a computer and this is why I am asking about specs, cause I would not know what to get.
I know I want:
AMD Phenom x4 (Quad core)
3Gb Ram (min)
HDD (7200 rpm min)
but I don't know enough about cables, DVD writers, motherboards, power supply, cases and all other things I would need.
a lot of people say it is cheaper and better to build your own, but I can't see that - if someone was to say this is what is needed, and let me know spec and cheapest place to buy, then I am up for thte recommendation.
I was actually going to suggest this when you first posted, although I would have gone with Ubuntu rather than Windows (more money to spend on hardware ;) ) I think it's a better OS anyway.
I helped my brother-in-law build his own desktop about three years ago, it was a lot of fun and immensely satisfying when we booted it up for the first time and gave a metaphorical digital finger to all those money grabbing corporations. :D
There is lots and lots of info online, here's a small selection:
http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/how-to-tech/build-a-computer.htm
http://www.buildacomputerguide.com/
http://www.wikihow.com/Build-a-Computer
http://www.mysuperpc.com/
As for parts in the UK, Google is always your friend:
http://www.google.it/search?q=computer+parts+uk&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a
yeah I have always thought about it but never got around to do it, and only want to spend £500, plus I would like a new monitor.
I am sticking with windows, as I have tried various linux flavours: suse, kubuntu, ubuntu, madrake (mandriva now) but I just cant seem to get my head round a lot of things. and I just get very frustrated by the linux elitists that always answer a help question with google it.... that used to really annoy me, so when help was not there, there was always windows to work as I wanted it to, ok, with more AV & Firewall protection but it was there.
I would love to find a place where I can configure a computer with parts I need, to see how much it is going to cost
It Caught FIRE. That's how bad.
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160511#
and maybe this monitor:
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161593
both will be just over the £500 mark
A lot of Dell's monitors are on sale right now. Buy one.
Hmmm I just had a look at UK prices. You guys get the short end of the stick for sure. Dell's monitors seem to be priced well, but the desktop are way out of whack when comparing to US and Canadian pricing. Tough luck.
its called RIP OFF BRITAIN, it get on my t*ts
It's ok, we all forget the pixie dust at one time in our careers ;)
As long as you have a good PSU and enough cooling compound, you should be fine. Just make sure you don't nom on the wires of course :)
bear with me, I really don't know a lot about specs.....
Although Britain is expensive, how does this sound:
Processor: AMD Phenom II x4 Quad core 3000mhz: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155714 £132.00
Motherboard: ASROCK N68PV-GS GeForce 7050: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161000 £31.50
RAM: OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Gold Memory: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149202: £38.06
HDD: Western DIgital 320GB 16Mb Cache: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124735: £33.44
Case with 450w PSU: EV Galaxy: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/136491: £31.99
DVD Writer: LiteOn 16x DVDR+-: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/97527: £13.99
All in one card reader: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/108453: £6.35
OS: Windows Vista OEM: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123067: £74.86
Monitor: LG 22": http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149336: £132.24
Total so far: £494.43
is there anything else I am missing?
graphics card can com later, but I would like USB at back & an ethernet connection to either take my ethernet cable or get a wireless to connect to my wireless router.
In my opinion, Acer makes the best priced monitors I've seen for the quality.
Processor: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164047 AMD Phenom II X4 3.2GHz (3,276.80 MHz) with a 6MB Cache and an AM3 socket.
Why AM3? Well, if you upgrade in the near future, AM3 processors will work on AM2 AND AM3 motherboards. NOTE: AM2 PROCESSORS will NOT work on AM3 Motherboards. Besides the hardware incompatibility, it cannot physically insert into the socket. This is good future proofing. Also, stray from the Phenom I series as they contain a bug in the L3 cache that can render systems unstable.
As you build, make sure you touch a ground, whether it be an anti-static wrist-strap or a piece of metal connected to a ground. If you are very paranoid about static, take some liquid fabric softener and put about two drops into a small spritz bottle full of water. Shake it up and spray it on your floor. This is one way to rid your area of excess static.
what about motherboard and the rest if I change the processor? would they all have to change?
If you change the processor to the one I suggested above, everything else would work perfectly. All AM3 processors have a DDR2 and DDR3 Integrated Memory Controller. This is how AM3 processors can work in AM2 motherboards with no modification. Though, if you upgrade to an AM3 motherboard in the future, the only other part you would need to change is your RAM to DDR3.
AMD Phenom II X4 940 3GHz Socket AM2+ 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor £132.00
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/155714
Gigabyte GA-M720-US3 AMD Nvidia 720D Socket AM2+ 7.1 channel audio ATX Motherboard (recommended by ebuyer because of other components) £48.51
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/160850
OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Gold Memory £38.06
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149202
Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM £39.90
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228
LG W2242S 22" TFT Monitor 1680x1050 8000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA Black 3 Years Warranty £132.24
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149336
LiteOn 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer IDE Black Bare Drive - OEM £13.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/97527
Shiny Black Mid Tower Case with Mesh Front Panel and Front 12cm LED Fan With Top Mounted 4x USB2.0 - No PSU £23.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/150291
Casecom 500W 12cm Fan - 20+4pin, ATX12v, 4x Molex, 1x SATA - Retail Box £16.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/109466
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English £74.86
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123067
All from ebuyer total cost £520.50
Microsoft Office 2007 OEM & graphics card maybe next month.
You should do a running thread on the build, definately. I would love to see how you get on and maybe give it another shot. The price bracket is right and with what Matt said about future proofing as well...it could be very, very useful to a lot of people.
As a P.S. - do ebuyer.com ship to the Republic? I had a look at their shipping details, but they don't explicitly say. Just if anyone had any idea...
If you scroll about two thirds down the page to "Delivery Options outside Mainland UK" you will see that they do indeed http://www.ebuyer.com/special/1293
I will do.... this is going to be my first build, I will be in contact with someone who hopefully (fingers crossed) will help me over the phone. I may even take pics and make a site up for it.
I am in 2 minds to get the processor Matt was speaking about the AM3 but on the AM2 board, lots of sites say it is ok, some say you have to flash the bios (???) and some say you can't......
My money has cleared, so it is just about buying the stuff now.
one thing I don't know about is..... will I need some sort of cement/glue stuff for the processor? or is it part of the processor I am buying.
it is daunting doing this as it is a lot of money, I want to do it right.
Also some pretty good vids on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Of49_WuOGY
EDIT: just watched the youtube video, & the only thing worrying me is the thermal paste stuff & cooling fan.....
I don't have these, any recommendations?
@Matt
I left you a private message
By buying a retail processor, your heatsink will have a preapplied compound-wax-pad applied to the bottom of it. All you have to do is secure it onto the processor and the compound will melt and spread out on the surface of the processor on first run.
THAT's why I said by a retail processor. Takes out the confusion ;)
EDIT
By buying a retail processor, it will also come with a stock heatsink + fan with the compound pad on it, in case I wasn't clear enough.
By buying a retail processor, your heatsink will have a preapplied compound-wax-pad applied to the bottom of it. All you have to do is secure it onto the processor and the compound will melt and spread out on the surface of the processor on first run.
THAT's why I said by a retail processor. Takes out the confusion ;)
EDIT
By buying a retail processor, it will also come with a stock heatsink + fan with the compound pad on it, in case I wasn't clear enough.[/quote]
sweet.
I just edited my last post to say I left you a PM, mainly about the AM3 processor.
I want to buy it either tonight or tomorrow, but, the processor I was looking at has went up a few pounds today, but the AM3 one you linked to has not.
I PM'd back. :)
buying tonight.
@EamonnMac
I will do a step by step guid of my build and take pics & I will add it to my wordpress at my website. http://www.honeycomb-web.co.uk
I will sedn the address as I am about to start building.
wish me luck everyone
EDIT
I bought the stuff. one or 2 small changes, due to recommendations.
1 x AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2 GHz Socket AM3 8MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor (gigabyte say it can be used, Matt verified - cheers dude)
1 x Gigabyte GA-M720-US3 AMD Nvidia 720D Socket AM2+ 7.1 channel audio ATX Motherboard
1 x OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Gold Memory
1 x Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM
1 x Casecom 500W 12cm Fan - 20+4pin, ATX12v, 4x Molex, 1x SATA - Retail Box
1 x LiteOn 16x DVD±RW Dual Layer IDE Black Bare Drive - OEM
1 x Shiny Black Mid Tower Case with Mesh Front Panel and Front 12cm LED Fan With Top Mounted 4x USB2.0 - No PSU
1 x Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium w/SP1 - W/ Windows 7 Upgrade Offer Form - licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit - English
1 x LG W2242S 22" TFT Monitor 1680x1050 8000:1 300cd/m2 5ms VGA Black 3 Years Warranty
total £562.03
EDIT
here is the wordpress link: http://www.honeycomb-web.co.uk/wordpress/
EDIT - You have a link to comment on the site, but no comment form. Might be handy if things go pear shaped! (not for me, obviously, but for Matt et al who actually know what they're on about - they could solve any probs all in the one spot...)
EDIT - for anyone in the Eurozone, I've just checked and Ikthius's build specs would exchange for €657.06 at the current rate.
but I will fix the comments part later after work, just before I build, it is all out for delivery right now.... I am so excited, yet some how shitting a brick at the same time. actually I need a poo
You know, sometimes there is such a thing as too much information. :?
there is never too much info......
ok, here goes, I am starting
But I am so bloody close it is unbelievable. but I have one minor snag..........
I thought on board graphics meant it had a bit for your monitor to go into, but I don't, so I need to go out and buy a graphics card.
does anyone recommend a good cheap one that will do till early next year?
and preferably I can get from a currys or comet?
http://www.currys.co.uk:80/martprd/stor ... egory_oid=
I should have probably made it clear that the board didn't have on-board. I thought you were attempting to pull out your old card and place it into your new board. You can put the blame on me for this one :oops:
http://www.currys.co.uk:80/martprd/stor ... egory_oid=
I should have probably made it clear that the board didn't have on-board. I thought you were attempting to pull out your old card and place it into your new board. You can put the blame on me for this one :oops:[/quote]
not blaming you......
Just before I bought all the stuff, I phoneed ebuyer, and the guy said to me to change the motherboard to this one, cause it will work better for the stuff I was buying. HE should have told me that, cause it was not mentioned.
I tried to salvage one, but mine was integrated to my last motherboard, I remember my mate gave me one, but it was too big for the case so I could not use it.
cheers dude, you have been awsome help
mind you I kind of want to get it up and running now....
Anyway the computer is a business expense, as I need it for business, the comp parts I bought were from the business account, now I can afford the graphics card on my own wallet.
in two months time I will get 4 more gigs of ram, and maybe another HDD to complete the comp...
I need it running first ;)
Oh, you can. We geeks call this running headless ;)
I guess you guys aren't able to enjoy the splendor that we American's call "Potential Lawsuits" :P
the public mentality is getting like america's, where some will go to court over anything, but it is not as rife as over there.
although looking for more places selling that card you linked to, just in case my local currys does not have it in, more than likely, PC World (who are the same company as currys) are doing it £20 more expensive..... I bloody hate rip off britain
speak to you all tomorrow
Installed the graphics card
Now I need to find where the motherboard speaker goes....... I can't find the damn thing.
this should bleep on POST
I had my F_AUDIO in weher the speak should be..... now all good.
Bang and the computer is gone......
on powering up the computer it banged, sparked from power unit and then smoked from power unit, so not good
PSU's are almost always the first component to fail. Still, though. File an RMA with the supplier for a new one.
The power supply blew and everything else was fine.
I just need to get rid of this huge monitor
cheers guys for all your help, especially Matt